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Michael



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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:41 pm

So difficult time for other counties as well. I'm sure some counties are living beyond their means with their overseas recruitment policies, especially with some prepared to part with bags of money just for 20/20 players. It just shows how desperate some are to succeed even if it means diving into the red. And if we were to have a bad summer with lots of matches rained off, then where will they be.......

It makes you realise that lots of clubs are heading for rocky waters. Some seem to worry more about it than others.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:38 am

Serchers wrote:
Derbyshire doing ok, made profit fourth year running, be it only £14,000

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/sport/County-cricket-Derbyshire-post-fourth-successive-profit/article-1783574-detail/article.html

Kent meanwhile are in dire straights. Made a loss of £700k previous year and last year's results to be announced soon. But bad enough for the chief exec to leave in November and membership prices for 2010 have shot up 50-70% > although to be fair I think they were too cheap before as membership this year is now £200.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/counties/article6966893.ece


The Don Amott rebirth of Derbys. is now beyond caravan jokes- good work from good people, and simply by working within their limits and what they know they can turnover.

Kent..well, what can you say. The previous membership prices may well have been too low- but the 70% increase is the baseline figure that the members will see. Expect trouble there- they really have not recovered from the annus horrabilis of a few years ago, have they?
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:53 am

Things got so heated on the Kent board regarding calls from SGM's, open letters to the chairman and petitions that the moderators have had to remove entire threads which has lead to further argument re. censorship.

Rob Key has even waded into the debate regarding the on-field impact of an unhappy membership.

Not sure if its a case of hotels before players or hotels > players > members?
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:03 am

asia exile wrote:

Not sure if its a case of hotels before players or hotels > players > members?


An excellent thread for our very own Hotels to join up, and feel comfortably at home with like minded souls

On the Derbyshire thing, are they not one of the biggest culprits regarding Kolpaks and other devious/dubious means of getting players ? And if so, I thought that this was the most expensive route for recruitment. And yet they've made a few quid.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:47 pm

Derbyshire had six, released three and have just contracted a fourth kolpak. Leicestershire have let all four of theirs go. Northants have 4 but subject to Home Office ruling on eligibility may lose 2. Somerset are down to 3, Surrey are down to 2.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:51 am

asia exile wrote:
Derbyshire had six, released three and have just contracted a fourth kolpak. Leicestershire have let all four of theirs go. Northants have 4 but subject to Home Office ruling on eligibility may lose 2. Somerset are down to 3, Surrey are down to 2.



Asia, if you get the time or inclination, could you list next
seasons kolpaks as we stand at the moment?

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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:30 pm

All righty then...

Usual caveat - posters from other counties please don't jump down my throat if such and such has now fulfilled the qualification period, has married the captains sister or has discovered Irish ancestry etc.

Derbyshire - Smith, Greg
Derbyshire - Park, Garry
Derbyshire - Hayward, Mornantau
Derbyshire - Peterson, Robin
Durham - Benkenstein, Dale
Durham - Breese, Gareth
Essex - Flower, Grant
Gloucs - Ireland, Anthony (if Eligible)
Hants - McKenzie, Neil
Kent - van Jaarsveld, Martin
Lancs - du Plessis, Francois (if Eligible)
Lancs - Powell, Darren
Middx - Berg, Gareth
N’hants - Hall, Andrew
N’hants - Boje, Nico
N’hants - van der Wath, Johannes (if Eligible)
N’hants - Wessels, Riki (if Eligible)
Notts - Adams, Andre
Middx - Henderson, Tyrone (if Eligible)
Somerset - de Bruyn, Zander
Somerset - Willoughby, Charl
Somerset - Thomas, Alfonso
Surrey - Nel, Andre
Surrey - Dernbach, Jade
Sussex - Goodwin, Murray
Sussex - Collymore, Corey
Yorks - Rudolph, Jacques (if Eligible)
Yorks - Brophy, Gerard

Think some of those 'if Eligibles' such as Ireland, du Plessis and Henderson (or whether the county has recently gone and found another kolpak) may now be confirmed as being in the negative. Note that a certain recently dropped SAf fast bowler strongly linked to a county has been omitted.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:08 am

Is Nantie new at Derbys.?

More than even the 'M5 escalator'- always really a two-way thing, of course: Derbys. have been Worcs. 'Old Boys' as Northants. were once to Middx. and Essex for Kent and Surrey.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:29 pm

Thanks Asia.

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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:04 pm

Interesting stuff Asia. Gareth Breese is the only one Id question cos I think he has a British Passport. Also Jade Dernbach I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:22 pm

Breese won't exactly put the wind up the oppisition.

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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:53 pm

Leics have made a profit of £689, the first time that they've made a profit since 2003

http://www.testmatchextra.com/Blogs.aspx?BlogView=Post&PostID=803044d1-4a65-43c3-aae5-1850a90a107c&BloggerID=c84ade10-92a1-47bd-81ad-7a789e37350b

Time for some people to wake up and realise how perilous the county structure is, and that it's not just Worcester who have struggled in 2009. There is obviously a deeply flawed business model across our game, despite there being more money than ever before being put into it.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:24 pm

MM, would you agree that they might be looking at the wrong areas where cut-backs might be required eg acadamies, coaching etc ? It seems to me that greatest area of expense, and inflation, is player wages which are now out of kilt with the real world. Salary caps and/or something similar must be brought in.
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PostSubject: Re: Other Counties   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:39 am

Cutting back in expenditure on academies and coaching is like pouring weedkiller over all of your garden on the basis that the weeds will all be gone...and then wondering why your plants and lawn etc. have just disappeared.
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