If we believe that the PCA MVP stats are a good reflection of performance the answer is yes

And the answer is not Glamorgan

I have added overall individual county batting points+bowling points+fielding points+ captaincy points+win points - which is exactly the way the PCA comes up with an individual players points. I have then divided by total number of games for the whole squad which I think is reasonable. OK captaincy points and win points are a bit misleading but these additions are numericallly small so we'll ignore their impact. I do not think there is any division weighting employed in the individual batting and bowling points but remember this is across all competitions.

D2 Leics 6.18
D2 Middx 6.81
D2 Glam 6.87
D2 Derby 6.95
D2 N'hants 7.15
D2 Surrey 7.32
D1 Warks 7.32
D2 Essex 7.37
D2 Gloucs 7.47
D1 Worcs 7.65
D1 Notts 7.83
D2 Kent 8.22
D1 Yorks 8.40
D1 Sussex 8.57
D1 Hants 8.87
D1 Lancs 8.95
D1 Somerset 9.03
D1 Durham 9.46

So I think I would be targeting the Bears home and away in the CC rtaher than the Cidermen

I bet if we take the Kolpaks away from this it'll make interesting reading though

We have the seventh best batting figures, the tenth best bowling figures and the seventh best fielding figures

James Foster is the top gloveman in the country, followed by daylight and then Steven Davies. Craig Kieswetter and Steven are the only two keepers in the country who have over 200 bating points. In terms of impact - average points per game the MVP is Prior followed by Kieswetter and then Davies.

We ARE the weakest team in DIV 1. We are bottom FACT !!!!

A few sides in Div 2 are a lot weaker than us. Glamorgan- Leicestershire etc.

as my posting appears to have become a new topic in it's own right can I say that I was referring to the likely 11 for tomorrow.
Mind you would any of you bet on us beating anyone with this 11?

WBB >>> which myth are you referring to ? Loch Ness Monster ? Who shot Kennedy ? ET doesn't exist ?

Fact : we failed to progress in the FPT and lost (got thrashed) by Ireland
Fact : we didn't progress in the T20 again
Fact : bottom of CC, lost 6 matches out of 8 (no-one else has lost more than 3), we have 15 batting points from 8 matches, and 19 bowling points.
Fact : we've got many injuries and players out of form

Fact : we're NOT MOANING when we're stating the obvious

I'm not entirely sure about Asia's figures because it doesn't seem right that the lowest scores are nearly all Div 2. There must be some form of weighting involved which distorts the stats a bit.

"as this myth of this year being a failure " wrote WBB

Myth ? I'm with Serchers.

WBB, how could the season to date have been worse ?

Well, you don't account for Asia's stats in your answer.

The season is not over yet. We can yell in October. I may yell louder than all of you- late converts are indeed more Catholic than the Pope, aren't they?

Rupert and I attended the AGM in February. It was a truly foul night with sleet of the wettest kind and snow- so I understand why no one else [?] came.

Who will come with Rupert [presumably so] and I next February if feelings are so strong?

Thanks Asia, have saved the link for a proper read later. If points are cumulative, what period does it relate to ? Current season only ? Or is it like golf and tennis where it's a constant rolling score ? If the latter, then out mid-table position might be because of a strong 2008, possibly.

I love these kind of stats but at the moment I still don't quite believe or understand them.

Liked the Castle line !

Picking up your AGM post,WBB,I note that several leading football clubs are taking advantage of revised company legislation which does away with the requirement for `small companies`to hold AGMs.I read that Everton,for instance, recently held a `shareholders forum`to deflect criticism of their opting out of AGMs.Their reason for disenfranchising their members was given as the avoidence of `frivolous motions` and ` lack of confidence polls`. Does anyone know if the legislation applies to P&F societies like WCCC-although it certainly does to WCCC Trading Ltd which makes up most of the Club`s activity? I tend to think that the `members` forums`introduced during John Elliott`s time as chairman have usually been a lot more lively and informative than the dull backslapping `middle of winter` AGMs-although they do not ,of course,have the legal power to influence club/company business.

I always find it interesting, Rupert, that our AGM is held in February.

March or April would be more inclusive , in my 'umble opinion!

Is there to be a Members forum this summer?

I think this would be quite lively!!

Nooooooooooooo. I never thought I'd see the day that someone on this message board would start labelling their comments with "FACT". The slide down to the level of the bbc message board is now underway and, soon, all we will be able to do is list our preferred England team

Last time I looked at the table,WCCC were bottom of the First Division.All these stats may excite some people but do nothing to alter our position.Are we the worst team in the land?Daft question We`d only know that if we played them all,wouldn`t we?